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The above pictures show the two main ways of collecting a stallion.  There is a third method , which is from the ground.  Someone either holds the stallion or you can cross-tie the stallion to collect him. 

I don't recommend collecting off of the ground unless your stallion is physically unable to collect off of a phantom or it is done only occasionally.  As with any method of training, your stallion responds to certain stimuli and responds accordingly.  In a normal breeding environment that would be the mare.  With the phantom, he learns to respond to the phantom and possibly mare urine if you use that.  If you ground collect what do you think that stimuli is?  It is you and what you hold in your hand (the AV).  My stallion began "talking" to me, even if he saw me walking by his pasture carrying a gallon shampoo jug.  Looked good enough for him.  Needless to say, this became very annoying, so several breeding season ago, it took 3 of us to "retrain" his brain.  He would get reprimanded for any reactions he made to us "the collectors" and was only allowed to react to the phantom.  As he had been ground collected probably 100 times it took a lot of repetition and collections for him to start having the proper responses.  He is now a breeze, and I collect him by myself again, but it took 3 of us to retrain him.

Collecting off a phantom is BY FAR my preferred method.   Start him right and keep him right.  By having a phantom to use, the stallion has a stable support for his body which makes it much easier and safer for the person doing the collecting.

When you collect off a mare, you always are taking a chance of getting kicked by or accidentally stepped on by the mare.  Several times I have been collecting off of a mare, and she repositioned herself, right on my foot, with the stallion on her.  Talk about heavy and impossible to move until they are done.  I have also been kicked several times by the mare especially during the dismount when the stallion is done.  For these reasons, I feel the Breeding Phantom is the only way to go.

If you would like to see some breeding areas set up and ideas on footing - click here.

"How to Train Your
Stallion to a Phantom"

$29.95 shipping included

This video will help you with the design of your breeding area, selecting a phantom, and training your stallion to collect off a  phantom.  By showing  actual collections in different situations and by 8 different stallions, you will be able to determine what will work best for your breeding operation.   We will then take you from start to finish while we train a stallion to a phantom.  

     
(530) 710-5255
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Stallion Management Services
6905 Happy Valley Rd.
Anderson, CA  96007